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Poster: Nothing Special Date: May 20, 2008 3:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: UK turns into a police state

From The Times newspaper today -


'A massive government database holding details of every phone call, e-mail and time spent on the internet by the public is being planned as part of the fight against crime and terrorism. Internet service providers (ISPs) and telecoms companies would hand over the records to the Home Office under plans put forward by officials.

The information would be held for at least 12 months and the police and security services would be able to access it if given permission from the courts.


Home Office officials have discussed the option of the national database with telecommunications companies and ISPs as part of preparations for a data communications Bill to be in November’s Queen’s Speech. But the plan has not been sent to ministers yet.

Police and the security services can access the records with a warrant issued by the courts. Rather than individual companies holding the information, Home Office officials are suggesting the records be handed over to the Government and stored on a huge database.

One of the arguments being put forward in favour of the plan is that it would make it simpler and swifter for law enforcement agencies to retrieve the information instead of having to approach hundreds of service providers. Opponents say that the scope for abuse will be greater if the records are held on one database.

A Home Office spokesman said the Bill was needed to reflect changes in communication that would “increasingly undermine our current capabilities to obtain communications data and use it to protect the public”.'


If this happens I`m off. Anyone recommend a nice place to settle in the US.

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Poster: acetboy Date: May 20, 2008 12:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: UK turns into a police state

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Poster: el muerto Date: May 20, 2008 4:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: UK turns into a police state

http://www.myspace.com/strawberryblondes

if the bobbies ain't sporting firearms, then it at as bad as it is in GOOD OLE USA.

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Poster: rastamon Date: May 20, 2008 11:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: UK turns into a police state

yeah, the USCompanies want to make $$ and care less if China uses us like a tool...Red China's intent is to divide and conquer, if not militarily, economically. UH-DUH!!
Thanks Gore & Clinton, for approving to send missile technology to Red China (communism with a smiley face)
Next to Bush, Bill was one sorry-ass president AND with no morals- and I'd love to shove some carbon offsets up Al's rich-corporate ASS!!!

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Poster: Nothing Special Date: May 20, 2008 5:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: UK turns into a police state

So where do we go?
Australia - Antartica - The Moon?

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Poster: cousinkix1953 Date: May 21, 2008 12:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: UK turns into a police state

We're fucked, and you will go out and re-elect those same Demo-Publicans to Congress again. Almost every damned one of them is a whore for the entertainment industry mafia. I just turned the fiery victory speech of next feuhrer. Better to enjoy the music streams here on the archive.

Be careful of the newest batch of DVD recorders, which are encrypted with DRM, so you can't record the shit on TV...

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: May 21, 2008 6:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: UK turns into a police state

what we need is a black pseudo-islamic pseudo-terrorist president to fix all our county's wrongs. hmmmmmm - maybe someone like o-bang-me, errrrrr, obama.

and the GD support that fraud???? have a few more hits of acid you fuckin morons.

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Poster: el muerto Date: May 21, 2008 6:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: UK turns into a police state

Dire, we have a teenage pregnancy thing going on here in California... Kids these days just like doing meth and smoke weed and poking around.... they don't whata work, they just whata bang on their pricks all day and water their crops.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: May 21, 2008 6:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: UK turns into a police state

meth is working its way here - by the time my kids are old enough to do it - it should be rampant .... oh yay

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Poster: el muerto Date: May 21, 2008 7:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: UK turns into a police state

That shit will f'up the country side. It is worst that any other drug. Fight to make it possession a class 1 felony.... a really big con it is...made by nazis for nazis

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: May 21, 2008 7:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: UK turns into a police state

agreed

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: May 22, 2008 6:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?

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We are Fucked. Perpetual War. Spying endlessly on everyone about anything and everything. Torture, torture, and more torture. Detaining people indefinitely in secret prisons - without charges, without a hearing in court, without legal representation, and without letting family members know what's up. USA and Great Britain lead the way into HELL! To believe otherwise is Pure Insanity and self-delusion.

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Who will join me in calling for an End to This Shit? Rebellion anyone?

How about we Start with a National Strike? Shut this crap down!

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IT IS UP TO US TO STOP THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR REPUBLIC

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Jerry Garcia, 1967: "What we're thinking about is a peaceful planet. We're not thinking of anything else. We're not thinking about any kind of power. We're not thinking about any of those kinds of struggles. We're not thinking about revolution or war or any of that. We would all like to be able to live an uncluttered life, a simple life, a good life and think about moving the whole human race ahead a step."

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Poster: the_full_monte Date: May 21, 2008 5:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?

Another hot-air picture sermon.

Put the swastickas away- you clearly have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: May 21, 2008 8:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?


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Poster: the_full_monte Date: May 21, 2008 8:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?

Yes, that is a picture of Bush.

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: May 21, 2008 9:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?


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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Jun 4, 2008 11:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?

So you are voting for McCain then, good. A voice of reason. The commander in cheif of our military should have experience in the military, even though he is old and reminds me of Steve Martin with a severe nervous tick fake smile thing that I can't stand.

I have been overlooking these for a while but free speech is still in our constitution (for now) and somebody needs to say something. Stick to the music and I will too ok? Our votes will cancel each other's out and democracy will still go on (in New Dehli anyway...)

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Poster: the_full_monte Date: May 21, 2008 9:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?

More pictures of Bush. The work and thoughts of others.

What, no more nazi images?

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Poster: el muerto Date: May 21, 2008 10:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?

hee hee hee haw haw

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Poster: rastamon Date: May 22, 2008 6:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?

nothing left do do but smi2le

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: May 21, 2008 9:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?

[sharing] The work and thoughts of others [here] - That's the point. I do not get into personal attacks with any posters on any forum. And I don't rub people's faces in stuff. I throw stuff out there, as most others do. My views are shared by countless others. I try to open people's mind, and get them thinking... imagining the alternatives...

I learn from others here. I love sharing the music.

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Poster: the_full_monte Date: May 21, 2008 10:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?

"I throw stuff out there, as most others do."

"Most others" don't cheapen history by "throwing out" swastickas and attempting to draw a parallel between our freely elected government- however much one may despise both the body and the president- and the Third Reich. Such flagrant ignorance of history is appalling.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: May 21, 2008 10:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?

children are innocent
a teenager's fucked up in the head
adults are even more fucked up
and elderlies are like children
will there be another race
to come along and take over for us?
maybe martians could do
better than we've done
we'll make great pets!
my friend says we're like the dinosaurs
only we are doing ourselves in
much faster than they
ever did
we'll make great pets!

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: May 21, 2008 10:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. -- Ben Franklin

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Poster: the_full_monte Date: May 21, 2008 11:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?

So you think you might be insane?

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Poster: rastamon Date: May 20, 2008 11:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?

shit - and i thought you were describing the Islamo-nazi scum's MOA (REAL torture & beheadings etc-etc) not just humiliation and waterboarding. The USA should just try to reeeeeeeason with the scum.
If we got info that saved our soldiers lives, well and good imo. Btw, I flew from DaNang to Okinawa on a C130 full of caskets (but no flags)
It was a GREAT thing that we kicked the Japs & Nazi's asses in WW2!!! This war is being led by idiot politicians though.

Here's a start >>

Iraq. Send in Iraqi troops to mop up pockets of resistance. Make Iraq pay with their oil for the cost of the war. Cordon off Sadr City, force all residents to leave, then go in and mop up all resistance fighters. Divide Iraq into three to four sectors; Sunni, Shiite, Kurd, and International. Next, remove all U.S. troops after above achieved.

Iran. One, sanctions embargoes and mine their harbors. Nothing goes in, nothing comes out.

I suspect Obama, Hillary, McCain will do the same as Bush, but to different people. They love the Patriot Act, but THEY want to use it to force their fucked agenda on their "foes"! All 3 candidates SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: May 20, 2008 11:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?

" Make Iraq pay with their oil for the cost of the war"

The cost of the war? You mean the one where we invaded a sovereign nation ( yes, an unjust one but that's like over half the world any one of which we turn a blind eye anyway if there's $ to be made )under the premise that they were a threat? That's not a war, that's an invasion. You talk about morals? How is it moral to say, oops, guess we fucked up, you need to pay for it now?

I agree we can't negotiate. What we SHOULD have done a long time ago is use what this Country used to have going for it - ingenuity - and develop alternative fuels. Everyone poo poo's it but look at the technology boom that's happened in less that twenty short years. The more interest, the more competition, it would be affordable. Then we wouldn't have to be imperialistic to cultures that hate us for it.

Oh, and how about let's keep Israel in perspective. We funnel Billions of dollars to the same country that turned around and sold our planes to China THEN had the nerve to spy on us. WTF are we exactly getting out of that deal?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 20, 2008 12:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?

We need Israel for the end times. Jeez, don't you pay attention?

waiting for the rapture....

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Poster: rastamon Date: May 20, 2008 12:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?

Fuck the rapture

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: May 20, 2008 12:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?

fuck 'til you rupture???

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Poster: rastamon Date: May 20, 2008 12:52pm
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haha! yeah!
I'll live my life the best i can, then let God sort it out thereafter
I'm sick of rature-when-how-who-why...where


what me worry?

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Poster: high flow Date: May 20, 2008 12:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?

"develop alternative fuels. Everyone poo poo's it"

YES! Methane! It works!

Powering several farms around the world as we speak.

TOOT!

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Poster: rastamon Date: May 20, 2008 12:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do? (edit attempt2)

can't seem to edit this post, so I'll start over >>

Hey Monte, from here >> http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/153317.php

From time to time, we at The Jawa Report bring you information on graphic and violent videos. The reason we link to these videos is so that you will have a more complete understanding of the monsters that we fight. While we aknowledge that war--all war--leaves misery and death in its wake, there is something particularly evil about those who intentionally torture and murder.

And when we mention torture, we mean real torture. And when we say murder, we mean it in its literal sense--intentionally killing another human being.

More often than not, when the Left speaks of torture, they mean a practice which they find disdainful. What they deem torture is often an act of abuse. While both may be immoral, torture and abuse are a far cry from one another.

Further, when the extreme Left (which certainly does not include most American liberals or Democrats) characterizes the unintended killing of civilians by American military actions murder, they are really describing a type of homicide which is not murder.

While losing a child (God forbid) to any act of negligience is terrible, it is far more terrible to lose a child to an intentional act of homicide--a murder. For example, one might find forgiveness for the police officer who accidentally runs into your car, killing your loved one, while in hot pursuit of a serial murderer. However, it would be far harder to make peace with the serial murderer who the officer is pursuing if your child was one of his victims.

Further, whenever real examples of murder or torture by an American soldier is brought out, it is always discovered after the military has instituted its own investigation into the matter or only after the military has brought criminal charges against the responsible party.

Compare that to the very real acts of torture and murder by the Saddam Hussein regime. These acts of torture were not random acts by soldiers out of control. Murder and torture were the policy of the Baathist state. It was institutionalized torture. It was systematic murder.

In the spirit of previous posts done at this site, we bring you a series of graphic images captured from home movies taken by Fedayeen Saddam soldiers. From time to time we need to be reminded why we fight, and these horrible and gruesome images serve that purpose.

The videos they were captured from can be downloaded at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy's website here. Hat tip to Pajamas Media who quote the FDD President as saying:

These images are brutal and disturbing – they are not intended for all audiences. But for those who want to understand the evils of the Saddam regime, and especially for anyone inclined to excuse or minimize the crimes committed, these videos demonstrate that Saddam was a ruthless mass murderer and a threat to all humanity.
Indeed.

Graphic images follow at this site >> (scroll down)
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/153317.php


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Poster: jef926 Date: May 20, 2008 7:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?

regardless of the validity (or lack thereof) of any points in this thread, what the fuck is it doing in the GD forum? There are any number of places for these discussions. This isn't one of them. I don't discount the importance of these subjects, just the place to discuss them.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: May 21, 2008 1:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?

You could very well say the same of the baseball/football/other bands/generally fooling around threads that come and go here. People feel at home in this place, they kick off their shoes and say what's on their minds. You're under no obligation to join in with a thread if it doesn't appeal to you. Sometimes you just have to go with the (high) flow.

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Poster: Jerrob Hungar Date: May 21, 2008 1:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: we are screwed --- what should we do?

I thought it was kinda cool myself - stark reminders we're here to refine our souls with love and music.

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Poster: sugarshack Date: May 21, 2008 9:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: UK turns into a police state

I find it amusing that Monte posts his little pictures and calls for a "national strike" whatever that means, and when Rastamon counters with coherent, sound logic, all we get is less thoughtful argument and more cartoons from Monte. If the situation upsets you Monte then it must be serious, and if it's serious then it deserves a whole lot more than bumper stickers and little cartoons. Then again, whenever I encounter someone who feels the way Monte does, and attempt to engage them in a thoughtful discussion, I usually receive the same childish emotional responses.

I don't usually post here, I pop in for the musical info I can gain. I must say you folks know your stuff and I appreciate what you've all brought to the table.

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Poster: spacedface Date: May 24, 2008 9:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: UK turns into a police state

http://www.radaronline.com/from-the-magazine/2008/05/government_surveillance_homeland_security_main_core_01-print.php

there's another like the Rolling Stone one,

and terrorists are not our teachers, so bad+bad does NOT equal good!

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Poster: roughyed85 Date: May 20, 2008 12:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: UK turns into a police state

NS, have you noticed that it's always "a home office spokesman" - you never get to see any of these fuckers. Bet they all went to "public" schools.